Best Laid Plans

Best Laid Plans Ep #41: From Essentialism to Effortless with Greg McKeown

May 3, 2021

First of all, I have to say I was immensely flattered that Greg McKeown’s team contacted me to see if I was interested on having him on Best Laid Plans. I mean, I just heard him on the Tim Ferriss Show (!).

Tim Ferriss Show, BLP. 500 million downloads, 183,000 downloads. My podcast has 0.04% of the downloads of that show.


I don’t know how BLP hit the publicist’s radar, but it was exciting nonetheless. Admittedly, I was a little nervous for this interview. Some of you who have listened for a while may be able to tell! BUT as it turns out, Greg McKeown was very . . . normal. And nice. So in the end, I think it went reasonably well! The topics we went into were quite different than those that Tim addressed, but I think the themes of his work came through.

I also enjoyed hearing a little bit about how Greg plans. Because as always, I was just curious!

Find Greg here and his book here (and everywhere books are sold)!

IN OTHER BLP-adjacent news: big Erin Condren release today (new Life Planners)! I have to admit I am excited for the one. As previously, please email me or leave a comment with your email if you would like a $10 coupon. I am hoping there is an A5 hourly layout . . . guess we will all find out soon!


  • Reply Katie May 3, 2021 at 5:07 am

    Wow! Super excited for this one. I just finished reading Effortless after hearing his interview on Tim Ferriss. Great work,Sarah!!

  • Reply Kristie May 3, 2021 at 7:50 am

    So excited to listen to this!! I’m in the middle of his book on Audible, so this was a fun surprise to see him on your podcast. Keep up the great work, Sarah!

  • Reply Hanna May 3, 2021 at 8:12 am

    No A5 hourly that I saw other than the daily. I was disappointed there was no vertical or hourly option in either coil or ring A5. My guess is that you can’t fit 4 of their classic 1.5 inch columns on the A5 size page (giving each day a full size column).

    • Reply Sarah Hart-Unger May 3, 2021 at 8:58 am

      I know 🙁 I’m so sad!

  • Reply Elisabeth May 3, 2021 at 8:12 am

    Go Sarah! This is so exciting.
    Also,183,000 downloads is pretty amazing, too! I have NO podcast and my only “followers” are aged 6 and 10 and require frequent snacks and toilet breaks.

  • Reply Caroline May 3, 2021 at 8:34 am

    Listened to this straight away, great interview – well done and thank you!

  • Reply Elisa May 3, 2021 at 8:57 am

    Well, I am now going to buy his book after reading it here….so I think his publicists know what they are doing 🙂

  • Reply Joy May 4, 2021 at 7:24 am

    What a great interview! I’m off to read both his books now. I heard him on Cal Newport’s podcast last week but I actually liked your interview better. Somehow you got to a point with him that really resonated. Thanks!

  • Reply Diana May 6, 2021 at 10:57 am

    This was such a great podcast episode! I got so many great insights from it – thanks!!

    • Reply Sarah Hart-Unger May 6, 2021 at 1:53 pm

      Thank you!!

  • Reply Anne May 6, 2021 at 11:42 am

    Wonderful interview! His take on gratitude was fascinating, I’m still ruminating on it and thinking about how to implement it into my life. Look forward to reading Effortless!

    • Reply Sarah Hart-Unger May 6, 2021 at 1:53 pm

      So glad you enjoyed it!

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